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on VShKA now goes debate on subject "Astrology and Orthodoxy."

If there is participating Gleb the Hawks the makes sense revere, in eminently erudite man man in matters history and Theology has, double not least of some astrological izykaniya. And all the rest. Ah was this years 6-7 consecutive on Forum Astrologer.ru, theme incapsulate couple of thousands of times, I think enough on generations 50 forward :)
All of this Flud. Every is expressed about how that thinks and that him seems, instead of spend years 10 on the study of issue. (And faster not tickles).

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With respect,
Yuri.

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Yura Garaga wrote:

If there is participating Gleb the Hawks

There is no, not is participating. And who this?

Yura Garaga wrote:

Everyone this Flud. Every is expressed about how that thinks and that him seems, instead of spend years 10 on the study of issue. (And faster not tickles)

Agree absolutely.

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No, not is participating. And who this?

Can be read his a small shtudiyu on subject life expectancy:
And all same why 84?
http://www.astrologer.ru/netforum/messa … 22769&
At all same in 2003on this Forum was many his messages religious character, for example in this topic:
"What government astrologer"
http://www.astrologer.eu/netforum/messa … rc=46&
Gleb Iastrebov have spread all on art man under down Christian who until this few years consecutive all rammed in head that he the largest specialist Christianity and Astrology (likely until now not have read Bible). After as Dmitri Nizhelchenko called couple of times Christiana present name - Mishnev (to word say Mishnev known its reading sacral Astrology, where he under present name, not pseudonym), the have insisted on to Dmitri been ditched from participants Forum) invoking the other grievances (which not were fantasy).

So that if you see that man many says about God, Sakralnom and under this refers on HlS OWN Vision nepodkreplennoe arguments. Robіt conclusions in really the early ;)))

Last edited by Yura Garaga (Apr 22 2007 13:29:10)

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Thank you, Yura, to read to still times necessarily. Something I have them in archive smiled, but "on diagonally" that is called.

Yura Garaga wrote:

So that if you see that man many says about God, Sakralnom and under this refers on HlS OWN Vision nepodkreplennoe arguments. Robіt conclusions in really the early))

Still times would argue.

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Ever read any Poe I exile Yuri Viktorovich. Yes, very clearly and is logical man expresses its opinion. Unfortunately, many now not understand, that close rapprochement ROC and state nothing good not bears (this I all pro debate on VShKA).

That me on life stuck so this absolute intolerance RCC to astrology, then as Astrologers always tried to find point common ground these two spheres of spiritual life.

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Радуга wrote:

What me on life stuck so this absolute intolerance ROC to astrology, then as Astrologers always tried to find point common ground these two spheres of spiritual life.

As the wondered I again over understanding spirituality and not was able nothing match. After all is obtained, that in ROC only clergy something understands in spirituality, and – only are their exhortations. And in environment astrologers, even if and "share" their on places and professionals, then until that not see "mandatory rulings" Tangent spiritual priorities. Moreover, training astrology absentia and web raze this and not can do. Here is here something me and find the notion of building construction astrology (as if this would spare from stamp junk science). But even weirder attempts "can" under ROC. In short :agree: - I for what astrology arose before and Sciences and religions, yes and engaged in Ideology not obsessive supostaty (yuii). And if perishing increasingly-??? experienced man not from haphazardly, then and with their temptations must cope. :to_babruysk:

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Юра wrote:

Well - I for what astrology arose before and Sciences and religions

Agree, Yura! Astrology - this indeed skill Abused life with the help symbols, in which focus knowledge as outcome surveillance for all around, as on earth, so and on the sky.

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Great Book all since the and peoples, BIBLIЯ, contains, as this not seem strange, many astrological of expression. And what be surprised? After all God, creating universe, precisely for moreover and gave man star the sky, to he studied his, and through stellar-posting reached would heights spiritual development in cognition themselves, world and behind!

The true, truly scientific astrology not only not contradicts BIBLII, but and has handled many disputed questions NiOxide way! Nedaremno known English scholar and believing man Francis Beckon said: “small knowledge removes from God, and large – leads to him!. ”

And created God two you great, for secession days from night, and for signs, and since the, and days, and s.

Own, Kn. 1

Not defined whether man time on Earth?

Job. 7 :1

If days him defined, and the number of months his have You; if You put an him limit, which he not Kims.

Job. 14 :5

Learn us so schislyat days our, to to purchase heart of sophisticated.

Psalm 89 :1 2

“Stars are raising hapless human over who. And laws their stronger its flow of.

The writing poet Milton on personal copy Bible, which deposited in from the museum

Measure measured He times, and ago He zanumeroval their, and He not has been moving and not pragmatic their, until not was this met.

W. Obtain IPs ’. As 2. 4 :3 7

Ischislyaet number of stars; all their calls names their.

Psalm 146 :4

And star from stars varies enormously in glory.

1 Cor. 15 :4 1

Go more, and tell center that: So says central, God David, father yours: I heard prayer s, saw tears your, and here is, I I am turning up to days with your fifteen years …

IP. 38 :5

Day for year I defined you.

: Book of Ezekiel. 4 :6

Let they will launch … astrologers: … and will save you.

IP. 47 :1 3

And betrayed I heart of my the, to examine and experience mudrostiyu all, that is done under sky: This heaviest attractive opportunity gave God children shall be kings human, to they have practiced in it.

Eccl. 1 :1 3

Averaged Sergei Bezborodnyy (site, School Scientific Astrology)

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IRA, thank you, a golden selection of sound bite! And you not like it or this to duplicate on Forum VShKA? There debate, on-my, is gathering resonance.

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Радуга wrote:

A you not like it or this to duplicate on Forum VShKA?

Lena, this same not my selection of sound bite :)
Is relevant whether will on VShKA quote site the other schools?

And from themselves simple example from life: Astrology (truth indirectly) helped me to know fate my of the gone prime which suffered for faith (incidentally, Archpriest), I about this already wrote as something.

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Morozz wrote:

Umestno whether will on VShKA quote site the other schools?

With my view all is relevant for ?????? of truth.
About role Astrology I with you fully agree. Astrology unfortunate because bears and powerful psikhoterapevticheskuyu function fundamentally superb from psychotherapy religion. Religion, in my opinion, teaches humility and irresponsibility, this, in my opinion, point applications for’infantile people. Astrology teaches TO SEE ANYONE, ISPOLZOVAT and transform its potential, camping on E. This more active kind of spiritual work. To the same, he may well be sootnesen with known method in psychotherapy, which is called "line time", when cel-pay instruct to see prospect his life and poetapnye useful changes in itself. Word, good use astrological knowledge goes cel-cultural on favor. That good is happening from tserkovynkh rituals I not know. Sorry, comrades believers, who reads. Not want wary of offending. But our generation was vospitano infidels, that not prevented us grow decent, inevitable people.

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Messrs., religion (Orthodoxy) not undergoes a astrology utterly desired by) - they have produced massive ideological founding.
Strange another - why astrologers recognition church?

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