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All are a good evening! I have emerged here is such question. As known, when we we build map saltire .The return, then imply, that this there is some pristine program or, say so, "Snapshot" considered year. But under this as given the fact, that some aspects of attitudes he picked up "within" year, not figuriruya "on scene" in day birth? Let me give you its example. In the current solyare, built on 8 November 2006, in map with Venus forms to lower our standards minornyy aspect of 36. This not causes suspicion, not foreshadows evils and at all universal attention to itself not attracts. Nevertheless, later several months beginning to appear squaring transit Pluto to natalnoy Venus. Which same and will ripple within saltire .The year. T. E. The next map saltire .The return, too, square these planets not contains, and means, problems like as and there is no. Nevertheless, because aspect of), then types again forms aspect of kvadraturys tend, which in solyare as would "not builds."
Means whether this, that transit aspects of, not "mortgaged" in solyare act fonovo? Although by experience I would so not told. I have happened well concrete events.
As at all link here one thing with other?

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Me was taught on classes in VShKA (I already wrote about this) disassemble separately map solyarnuyu and birth without consideration aspects of planets between planets. Only in late debriefing we watched in what natalnye homes fall solyarnye. And aspects of between solyarnymi and natalnymi planets we taking, when Sunday? Tranzity. And of course same aspect of between, Turkey, types and natalnoy tend has enormous significance, camping on K. Aspect of from superior planet to personal always on first place. Tranzity we watched so, as in book B. Brady: Where came boggy planet (the reason events), in what House is (here will event) and somehow manages (impact these homes).

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Rainbow wrote:

In the current solyare, built on 8 November 2006, in map with Venus forms to lower our standards minornyy aspect of 36. This not causes suspicion, not foreshadows evils and at all universal attention to itself not attracts. Nevertheless, later several months beginning to appear squaring transit Pluto to natalnoy Venus. Which same and will ripple within saltire .The year. T. E. The next map saltire .The return, too, square these planets not contains, and means, problems like as and there is no. Nevertheless, because aspect of), then types again forms aspect of kvadraturys tend, which in solyare as would "not builds."
Means whether this, that transit aspects of, not "mortgaged" in solyare act fonovo?

Lena, and under than here at all solyarnaya Venus? Have you Pluto with makes squaring to the produce markets only for concrete., that is private case yours transit Pluto on the produce markets. We same would still look the link with radiksom, so that, on my view Venus solyarnaya precisely in this dimension not necessarily must be initiated. And 5 th house have you in solyare and so involved :)

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All Hi! Girls, thank you for reviews.

Татьяна wrote:

so that, on my view Venus solyarnaya precisely in this dimension not necessarily must be initiated.

Yes, to be sure! With my hand, this was it is illogical.

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Here still opinion appeared. With resolution Chukokaly'm amending here passage from personal of e on subject:

". In natalnoy map have human top planet are worth in awoke the, how I remember you Pluto in the first the (you can on help test), ah so here is, works aspect of superior planet in is solyare, in which ultimate planet in the same the, that and in radikse. If thought true to, then you peak passion on aspect Pluto squaring Venus, already has passed. Naturally, thought need test, because she forge the It comes. Farfetched. "

Yes, in the first. Here is and will check :)

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Hello! Chukokala Very wrote:

Радуга wrote:

". In natalnoy map have human top planet are worth in awoke the, how I remember you types in first the (you can on help test),

And can be question from student? That this for progress such in Natale? The first, the second. And as his determine (on help)

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Yolka wrote:

A can be question from student? That this for progress such in Natale? The first, the second. And as his determine (on help)

Greetings, The tree! :) How we know, all planets, except luminaries, aside from direct true to form still and reverse, camping on E. Recoil movement. If planet rapid, it aspektiruet birth point "in an instant", then slow planet affect planet and natalnye point several times: In the first time, having come nearer to it, then they unfold in dark side and again aspektiruyut / and in third time again returning in a direct movement. For example, interaction transit Pluto to radiksnoy the produce markets can be watch in the first post this themes, I there all have outlined (this all calculated on help).
Among astrologers there is no accuracy in defined by relevance these walk-throughs. So, Stefan Arroyo believes, that most the first progress is an important and the most important, this a new experience, which nativ is experiencing first time. However many practicing Astrologers consider, that real events occur on latest the touch. Transit planet natalnoy point.

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Chukokala wrote:

. " In natalnoy map have human top planet are worth in awoke the, how I remember you types in the first the (you can on help test)

So there is in view progress transit Pluto on radiksnoy the produce markets? Or natalnogo Pluto on natalnoy?

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Greetings all!
Rainbow, I, can, something missing here, but Chukokala told, that "In natalnoy map have human top planet are worth in awoke the."
If this a certain progressthere is and analyzed on natalu, then ???? here tranzity?

Last edited by Yolka (May 31 2007 10:55:17)

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Have my friend astrologer-2 Diesel fuel - this the main usage child pornography. He says this that with man not can happen nothing such a, that not referred Solyarom (what would nor were rubles that and progression). Basic spheres life those, far fall Ace, the Sun and Mars diesel.

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Yolka wrote:

Greetings all! Rainbow, I, can, something missing here, but Chukokala told, that "In natalnoy map have human top planet are worth in awoke the." If this a certain progress there is and analyzed on natalu, then ???? here tranzity?

Tanja and The tree, Merci Pour le, that turned attention on mismatch issue account. I dreamt and ephemerides radiksnyy aspect of on subject petlyaniya, but there there is certain the twists and turns, which I not gather additionally in any way. So I'll ask Council have Chukokaly on mail that to me,, and then'll interject this subject.

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All hello! :thank_you:
Very interesting theme.
Chukokala wrote:

". In natalnoy map have human top planet are worth in awoke the, how I remember you Pluto in the first the (you can on help test), ah so here is, works aspect of superior planet in is solyare, in which ultimate planet in the same the,

Let offer his vision of the issue.
In your map, Rainbow, widespread compound Pluto with tend, compound Contracting. If to follow Chukokale, then the main event should be on latest the touch. Raskhodyaschegosya square third. Pluto to only for concrete the produce markets.
Pluto after all not has passage on Venus?
By and large this compound can be, perhaps connection and not considered, (perishing painful for big orbis) means in displaying for you this aspect of (squaring transit Pluto to the produce markets only for concrete.) can be and not particularly are of significance, and Following a certain infamous disturbing you now events safely only one up for grabs.

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Sorry, for his Yemenite immigrants made their homes, to be clear, um that had in mind:
1. Look at birth map. Look, in what the ultimate planet in natalnoy map. (Suppose in the first). Study out the main what aspects of has ultimate planet in radikse. (Incidentally, about otstutviya soed-I Venus with Pluto have Rainbow before I not agree with Nikolai, but this deal more taste and choice orbisov).

Assume, that in its Transit movement this ultimate planet under aspects with natalnoy planet, with which connected in radikse will manifest itself in life human special condition, really overwhelming experience or event.

2. Forth look aspects of transit superior planet. In some the moment ultimate planet will form mazhornyy aspect of to natalnoy planet. Interestingly know, in what the superior planet this aspect of lagging in particular view able, ache. My assumption - that ultimate planet must be in the same the, that and in Natale. Perhaps it interpret, perhaps expression of aspects depends on other factors.

If interestingly, I can example from life lead on the subject (only this on tranzitam, not on SB)

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Чукокала wrote:

If interestingly, I can example from life lead on the subject (only this on tranzitam, not on SB)

Ah of course, interestingly! :)

All hello!

Чукокала wrote:

1. Look at birth map. Look, in what the ultimate planet in natalnoy map. (Suppose in the first).

Here is this moment me injects in impasse. And if not in the first? If in the second? Then in the first is obtained TO birth. So? But if TO birth, then we look NOT transit Pluto to the produce markets, and Venus to Pluto (transit), camping on K. She more rapid.

Can we not about how are talking?

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Николай wrote:

Skyfall and large this compound can be, perhaps connection and not considered

Nikolai, he IS :) Nu orbis big, I agree. Ah raskhodyaschiysya. But nevertheless I his very well feel.

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Hello!

Чукокала wrote:

1. Look at birth map. Look, in what the ultimate planet in natalnoy map. (Suppose in the first).

Please, explain me, as see in natalnoy map, what this progress? How this in natalnoyy map at all is determined by?

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Means so - progress planet on F on zodiac look on help. Still times emphasize, that radiks pervichen, so look birth map. Now have us map Rainbow before, opening ephemerides of on its day birth. Look at types - his coordinate of the 22 15 Virgin of. Question, in which times he goes on this F on, decide what's prosmatrivaniem pages ephemerides in column, where types. Estonia on ileum graffical ago and forward find ourselves, that Pluto in moment birth Rainbow before the first time anodyne on this F on zodiac. Yolka, so understandable? (And if not understandable, you still times ask :yes:
Still times emphasize, that first we look not on aspects of RP in radikse (aspects of RP in radikse this the next phase), but on the very RP and study out the main in which times she goes on F on zodiac. This will determine its "Number" passage. On which she in tranz. Movement will to lend a certain reaction (see Higher) (Est- but with those planets, with whom connected in radikse) fdgf

Sentiment promised example. Lived was L, have which in natalnoy krate types was in 5 the (Rainbow, the first 4 times passage Pluto by the F on zodiac, held until her birth - but this its ososbo not worried). On trouble or happiness the Westerners in natalnoy map types was in of increasing to its Sun in 12 House. Lived this L can be said well, but not is clearest, family, children, highly is it apt work - but here began solidify aspect of opposition transit Pluto to natalnomu Sun. As you realize, Transit types behaved on 6 home. Thus Lies the opposition 15- 12 homes. The first 4 times types has passed precise aspect of - its of course was shaking for different reasons, clouds at work were brewing, health norovilo fracture, but all as something would just repair itself after departure Pluto from degrees accurate opposition. But here is has passed Pluto in 5 times degree accurate opposition with Sun behaves similarly and has become she jobless, camping on E. Happened serious change in its life. Such a the sad history - illustration to our conversation. After this some stories to tell them I has become closely treat number passage RP in tranzitakh and observe different tranz. Situations of this kind (ah camping on E. When in radikse there is aspect of between RP and any affairs Planet, and then in tranzitakh RP this radiksnuyu planet aspektiruet). If there is desire to, manager:, too, - perhaps, I am mistaken, perhaps there is no.

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Чукокала wrote:

RP

RP - this ultimate planet (clearer on anyone case)

Чукокала wrote:

Estonia on ileum graffical ago and forward

I was a page-Turner ileum graffical :). Accurately! In the first. Means, there is labor hypothesis, that most "fun" already behind. However consider forth, in late November should secondary calling. However, there finds himself out an interesting nuance. In December transit Jupiter and types are to be joined in like him too? And already the two of will kvadraturit birth Venus and eaea with it. Me seems, can be interesting options. Plus solyar gives kvadraturu Venus-Pluto. So that, in that point many what pans out.

Чукокала wrote:

Rainbow, the first 4 times passage Pluto by the F on zodiac, held until her birth - but this its particularly not worried

:) Don’t know, can and about with perspective past originating, but in any case I not remember :)

Can still someone their tranzity on this subject looks at the? Not necessarily types, there is after all still and Uranus, Neptune.

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Чукокала wrote:

Estonia on ileum graffical ago and forward find ourselves, that types in moment birth Rainbow before the first time anodyne on this F on zodiac. Yolka, so understandable? (And if not understandable, you still times ask

Ask still times :D perishing sorry, if show my face prizes tugodumkoy
As we give an, that this progress the first? The first from what? Where the benchmark for?

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Yolka wrote:

Asking still times

Sprshivali? Faced :)

Yolka wrote:

How we give an, that this progress the first? The first from what? Where the benchmark for?

Tir, Pluto - planet the slow. So? How many times Mercury "cleared" map? Many, correctly. And types how many?. So neatly scroll ephemerides of ago (from childbirth until conceiving, can be even further) and quick! Closely. Hardly there types will quickly Caribbean, and likely, he will slowly housing, periodically "the swing" in retrogradnost. If retro he NOT was, means, in the first time goes on target F on.

Ah as could so and explained :)

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