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Magic: Myths and stereotypes

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All are a good day! Will discuss?

The world peoplet share in Uchenii army of Shambhala (international Academy "Marital himself") on three categories: This ordinary people, mages and yoga. Than same they differ from each other? Above all, solution those problems that arise in their life. The usual man, deciding its problems, is starting to experience, is beginning to spare no themselves, he is beginning to tormented, suffer, and, thereby, squanders its time, their energies on the negative emotions, which him not can help. When have mage arises any the problem, then mage not's been suffering, not suffers, he commits 3500 their energies, entire force of their desire on achieving the goal, to which he seeks. Mage asks themselves: Chego same I want, why same arose this problem? Perhaps be this the problem is, that have mage there is no, for example, funds for trip to Libraries, the pyramids, where he wants conduct any rituals, connect to egregoru Egypts. Mage commits 3500 entire force his intentions and desires on achieving meet the target. He not is experiencing, and simply believes, that desire to his unkind marks the, that to him will come positions of and'll attract it any circumstances life, situation, he not fantasizes, not creates any something concrete forms of, he says: Ionou my desire to marks the any way, let I modicum on air can go in Egypt, but'm gonna end up there, can be I somehow other way be there, can be something will happen unbelievable I will take whatever steps are any path. And mage awaits, by continuing cultivate this intention and desire to, offered not having any doubts, not assuming in itself of emotions, samosozhaleniya, sadness, disorder. Thus, any man could would become magician, if it comes he instead of, to fret and suffer, simply has guided all their desire to on achieving some goal and offered would not doubted. Why same people not act thus? The entire the trouble is, that people too sentimental, woundable, too sensitive and passive, too many fancy and like fret. There is and such, which like themselves to torture whatever something negative trumps emotion, because this gives them a sense of life, they live these moment.
For moreover, to become magician, person should become harsher, must become more yanskim, more decisive and active, to not allow sentimentality, not allow keep the doubt, sadness, apathy, depression and other wealth,, which being engendered by inskoy energy. Precisely the availability of inskoy energy prevents man become natural magician. Teacher advises see for by some businessmen and fortunate people that are not osoznannymi for, but they mages essentially, because always are taking decisive actions in achieving its goal, always drafted in itself, little give meaning various Galton, sadness are and other low tug, have them very many yang energy. Now will call attention on accident people. They nothing not can do, they very passive, very are an impressionable bunch, like algun in are, are in constant once saw silence. These people strongly are filled with inskoy energy. Such people most, after all they're miserable because, that not want abandon with its passive condition, become active, energetic and realize their desires. Of course, magician be well, but person should go further, so as, if unwise exercise all their desires, i.e. risk become black magician, and then can be go in impasse their desires, then mage starts destroy himself themselves and all around for achievements its goal.
Man ,-reaching on path the Truth, should be yoginom. That same such be yoginom? This means to resolve its problems through finding their source. When man finds source of its problems, then the problem itself disappears, and all problems come down to one, that decides yogin on the way his improvement. For example, if yogin wants to go in Egypt, as the recent mage, then he should ask themselves: Why I want this do? Perhaps, him will come the answer: I want connect to the Egyptian egregoru, want to purchase knowledge the Egyptians, acquire the strength, and, perhaps, I wanted to would to gain Knowledge forces, to realize their desires, can be for moreover, to considered themselves Grand, to not be thus, as all people, to all watched on me with respect, reverence, to I could be leader expense of positions of and forces, Philadelphian me from solutions to this mystery Sphinx Egyptair pyramids. Then yogin views, why have him fulsome desire to resulted over others people, for what need, to they his respect the and camping on D. Why he has no desires resulted, for example, over forested or stones, over dogs, or over whatever something in other creatures, why precisely over people? It turns out, if man will long disassemble these its problems, then he ???, that he has a certain image, image themselves, who was him cold heart with childhood, and in this image hard-wired certain moments: Need, to you all respect the, thus something and thus something be well or poorly, need do the something and the something, for example, seek to achieve leading position over people and camping on D., i.e. there is a whole program third, following from moreover, who I, and why I live on Earth. ????? that program its grains: One person wants to become rich, the other wants to become famous, the third wants to become leader, to gain power over other people, the fourth wants, to his all be loved and camping on D. In every human put into practice program and only then, when he implement their desires, he can be happy. I can be happy, when'll have to make a power over the world , the so thought, for example, Stalin, Alexander developer WorldForge, Hitler and. R. Only then I will happy, when me all will respect, when I'll have to make a huge glory , the so think many entertainers, movie stars often fall. When I will richer all people, when I have will much money, then will I be able considered themselves happy , the so think many billionaire, but on fact their pursuit of power, for glories, for money never popo pulled up, and they to the end, his life so and failed to say: But here is now I reached, now I can considered themselves happy , for no end these achievements.
History of Yoga, when thinking over their specific problem and control of the whole orchestrate all ?? ? ? gives, sees, that he wants be in some awoke able, he tries to trigger state of happiness, compelling the itself: I reached this goal , and looks, what state of have him emerges. He sees, that now can afford become happy, or he tries to think: A why I want achieve goal precisely thus by, cannot be whether me achieve happiness somehow still by? And, when thinking over these, yogin comes concluded that him not need a the entire this chain ?? ? ? elements, to be happy (respect people, power over all world, desire to, to enforced all whim), he abandons entire this the senseless bringing in. People never will fulfill our whim, never we not succeed power over the world, never guided the most rich and camping on D. If we persevere power, then must fear its losing, we must fight, to its preserve. If we persevere glory, wealth or love, then we must again same fight, to their keep, preserve, we will fear their losing, and all of this will create have us problems, insoluble problems, and state of happiness so and not will come. History of Yoga abandons all of this and allows itself be happy. Then, he discovers that, to be happy, need napolnitsya vigor, that here is precisely these ideas wealth, power, when he thought about them before, when he actively has felt, desired their achieve this his was filled with energy. Now, when he is beginning to to abandon this goal, then he feels, that his energy is beginning to fall, and here yogin understands the very essence of problems, it turns out man can be happy only then, when energy overwhelms his, when energy freely is moving through his being. It turns out, before yogina self fuelled his selfish goal, they not provided him draw comfort from, precisely expense of this he and was enriched with energy. When yogin refused from these ideas, then of makeup vigor has become disappearing. To be happy, he must find a new source of energy, which not was would is due social forms of, designed by society, to force human something to do, force human be enslaved, be zombies social programs. In search of a new source energy yogin will come out on traditional religious path drain with cosmos. History of Yoga comes to what he simply should open up Higher the Force, that he should go by warrior, by struggle with all, that him prevents, that he should seek the Force in Cosmos, in fusion with God. And then he rastozhdestvlyaetsya with social dismantling prejudices, with the entire heresy, that man incited with childhood, to make his small screw of in social machine, he reaches happiness through the search for Forces, through the search for energy within themselves, in God, in Cosmos and other Great Lakes things.
Each of you should contemplate: What same I do? Collusion whether I although would magician, of walking whether I by yogina, or I hopelessly Stuck in the Net this maze social attitudes and sought in vain a member, that reality not corresponds to, that me lulled, a member about how, that reality not corresponds to, that I itself imagining, and shrank by this, I to the same still and not are applied, as mage, and momentary digression in depression, me very poorly, I tormented and medular syndrome, and so and nothing not is changing. Look at people, which you well know: Your close, your relatives, friends: Who of them was able become happy, lived) entire life? And, if they are honest, then will say you: At fact we were happy in childhood. And than further and further we has been going,, growing up, than more we propityvalis social program, the more unhappy we became, the more contradictions, agony and imbalances we found in his mind and thought world, the more and more we zaputyvalis around the this. In childhood we were happy, not thought about his personality, about their sculptural splendor, and now we have become unhappy, ill, wears out this unending social game, and we want get rid of this.
Person should first become magician, become more active, more vibrant, more yanskim, and then he should gradually reflect on them the, that he wants, and then he ???, that happiness he can achieve, directly under any with cosmos, bypassing their egos and his game, then he will reach Higher goal his existence, will reach samadhi, mergers with God.

Continuation of should

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With respect, Tatiana Anufrieva

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This the thin hint that Zaraev mage?

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This is the thin hint that Zaraev mage?

In some sense yes.

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All not so. This that same any man actively goes for carry their desires - mage?
Magic - this phase of evolutionary development rights. This, as least, man, living on cordial chakre. Cannot be same to mages accounted abuelita, which Hypnotizes privorotami. She has there is a certain ritual, connecting to the appropriate egregoru.
Or, first of businessman, which goes on bodies, are, but knows what wants and wants his.

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Yes, something here not porezov :blush: I not special in this fact, but on-my mage this man, which involves on the world "nemedikamentoznymi means", camping on E.. And than he involves? :sorry:

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Hello! :thank_you:
Can be to you to join?
Rainbow wrote:

I not special in this fact, but on-my mage this man, which involves on the world "nemedikamentoznymi means", camping on E.. And than he involves?

You, Rainbow, perhaps lukavite, after all every man, actively goes for their tseley-, too, mage in what the extent.
Helen wrote:

Everyone not so. This that same any man, actively goes for carry their desires - mage? .
.. Cannot be same to mages accounted abuelita, which Hypnotizes privorotami. She has there is a certain ritual, connecting to the appropriate egregoru.
Or, first of businessman, which goes on bodies, are, but knows what wants and wants his.

In my skomnomu view, have many, in greater or a lesser extent there is ability to to a magical, tribrid transformation surrounding world. Unfortunately and have gran's and have businessman. Only here is alone develop their talents, and other in force series of causes enjoy they occasionally.

Here, perhaps, as and everywhere there is pros, and there is dilettantes.
Magic - this phase of evolutionary development rights. This, as least, man, living on cordial chakre

Well said,
And this, of course, not all given, and, perhaps, here much depends on, how crafted these talents in past incarnations, and foretell which path man goes.
Have me to you, Helen, here is such, perhaps rather technical question, and on somehow criteria distinguish between White and black magic?

Thank you.

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on what criteria distinguish between White and black magic?

This highly conditional notions. Is a magical impact there is impact on the world. Any impact assumes returns. Mage feels the heart, that will from his action. Equilibrium and harmony or contrary chaos and devastation.
There is mages which place its goal spiritual growth. And all actions and desires are viewed with this hand. Mage essentially not interested in outcome his action, and worries, what he gets circuits experience. Conditional support such mages can be attributed to white.
Still one category mages puts its goal increase personal forces and power any price. They are rising expanding, utyazhelyayutsya and nor about what movement upward speech not goes.

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I not special in this fact, but on-my mage this man, which involves on the world "nemedikamentoznymi means", camping on E.. And than he involves?

The most chief tool mage this his consciousness. For work clear conscience needs developed national define body. But many clever people, scientists have very developed national define body, but for not are. For mages't glance on our world, as on one of of multiple worlds, vision down and from afar. Mage knows, that physical laws this world not the only and that people perceive their bodies feelings only part of the world. In magic is considered, that our world 22-'s jigger, and the usual man is oriented in 3-'s GPS world. Everything else he not sees and not understands. Still for mage necessarily the availability of forces. About it difficult write. She either there is, either its there is no.
Magic this science, lean on ancient knowledge, knowledge previous mature of civilizations, existed many millennia ago. Mage has special properties. His organs feelings perceive the world differently (psychic's land), thought his turns into tool, producing the world (magic). Mages have special in having - recovery memory about previous lives. Before for not worth question there is whether life after death? For them this reality and work. Mage seeks be unconscious after death and is born with almost full memory of last life camping on E. His latest personality. Have one of options immortality.

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Lena, thank you for narrative. Know, me long worries one question. Here is, to example, man possesses magic abilities. 'oc. Means whether this his the success of the? Implementation of in society? I.e. can whether he their ability to apply for its the earth life? Well learn, obtain profession, create family, saved themselves and close from diseases and misfortunes?

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All depends on, that he chooses Rouseff. ????? mage has its grains task and rarely whom manages sleep on life. Still very many depends on specialization mage.

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But mage on life this social man or antisocial?

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From whom what task. Can be and social and known and super-rich . Still and especially personality, they after all nowhere not go, anyway, and contrary intensifying. As I already told, many depends on population. For example, mages population land this the very rich people. But not always, accented and exclusion.

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Wu me to you, Helen, here is such, perhaps rather technical question, and on somehow criteria distinguish between White and black magic?

Question at all something is addressed not me, but I and not give the answer, and simply in here their considerations on this expense. Of course, zatronutaya theme - ah very not an easy and exclusively thin. To discuss it - walk on mission transition. So here is, sometimes me comes in glovu, that magic not case a white. Any magic - activities forces, constituents in opposition to with God. This it seems on pride and revolt human, which only created on way of and image, however not wants tolerate such role, wants to be not simply similarGod, but besince no.
This with one hand.
With other hand, all these considerations are evaluative with hand individual nations personality (that Presents me), personality far not advanced, not advanced deeply in their spiritual search of, and simply many absorptive varying degrees information in area involution (and of the occult.
As realize, further - not comments

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All good time days!

Because, are treated as would me, stuck mouth its opinion.

The tree wrote:
So here is, sometimes me comes in glovu, that magic not case a white.

Me so same seems, that magic not the case, what the a white, black or what the there color, (she or there is or its there is no) importantly with what goal a man- mage transsexual their actions and whatever means. Whatever internal aspirations guided by.

And by and large, the entire our simple activities - so same is a magical action, only persevere we goal, discerns own forces, and opportunity connectivity to secret resources, emerges, perhaps, only on least of our growth and development, in primarily spiritual.

And, perhaps, only there, on more high-level development is realized own pursuit way of and image God, and emerges drive although would to this come closer.

And perishing
Tir wrote:

wants to be not simply similar God, but be since no.

Here is this already accurately it is not feasible for
Although if take great .
Example Stalin - (ah who will tell, that he not was magician), after all and goal the was pious, but means in this (. He the, perhaps, and believed themselves God.
That from
This broke a all known.

I have so same, a certain opinion about modern magakh, how it coincides with someone Jelka third themselves.
Think have many mages of our time goal one - own welfare, means its achievements - our electorate of. And large good, if satisfaction our ? ayiee, are byproduct of the their, mages , activities.

With respect Nikolai.

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Understand, that here gathered people thoughtful human, akess its view and am not expected no one nor in than try to change it. But, Orgeat, that reasoning about magic from afar, in my opinion, not fit truth. Can be compare with position human, child, not within, that such sex, and who his in movies. Especially if porn. :O Horror! Not understandable than they remove and for what and all quite... scary. And when the baby comin 'will grow, , will love partner so and all right on, talk and with feelings and results in the form of shoes. So and here.
As cannot be on one Chikatilo actually, the maniac here, judge alone mankind, so and in sotsum mages all different.

Nikolai: "Think have many mages of our time goal one - own welfare, means its achievements - our electorate of. "
If man went in magic, but until this (for many millennia its evolution, not learned earn and provide themselves), then this not mage, and man, who calls themselves magician. Usually people with neproydennymi qualities Manipury quickly are returning ago. As in game :) and wipe making money under the guise of magic, not their spiritual development.

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Hello, Helen! :P
Sorry, if their saying in than... the tense, all right you.
You, of course, understood, that I spoke of magakh and magakh in quotation marks, think past in our time much more. To the first same I am with large respect, and, likely my reasoning about them, as you said from afar.

Helen wrote:
Nikolai: "Think have many mages of our time goal one - own welfare, means its achievements - our electorate of. "
If man went in magic, but until this (for many millennia its evolution, not learned earn and provide themselves), then this not mage, and man, who calls themselves magician. Usually people with neproydennymi qualities Manipury quickly are returning ago. As in game and wipe making money under the guise of magic, not their spiritual development.

As I understood, here we are talking about one and same. :)
I have in only for concrete. Map compound the sun and of the Dark Moon Illusion, but I feel, as would shtoli ban on attractive opportunity magic, although there are very a strong pull use its in achieving its goals.
And that most interesting I have no sensations, that magic for me this lead the an unknown, roughly such sense of as with tranzitami, they directives are me easily, and here is symbolic technology deployment maps harder.
I.e. such a sense of, that with magic, as and with tranzitami, I sign long, and here is say progression and rubles that for me speaking the new, and this me touches.
Helen, you, perhaps, can comment on my words and still can be ask you to tell about how you came to magic, and than she is for you?
Me was would very interestingly.
With respect Nikolai. :thank_you:

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Helen, you, perhaps, can comment on my words and still can be ask you to tell about how you came to magic, and than she is for you?

And I'm gonna join you to the request Nicholas.

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And that most interesting I have no sensations, that magic for me this lead the an unknown, roughly such sense of as with tranzitami, they directives are me easily, and here is symbolic technology deployment maps harder.
I.e. such a sense of, that with magic, as and with tranzitami, I sign long, and here is say progression and rubles that for me speaking the new, and this me touches.

All correctly, Nikolai. Its domestic voice, their sensations this most important. All we, for rare the exception, engaged in before unique. Incidentally, astrology is considered part of magic threshold science, somewhere on level kabbalistiki. In astrology relying simply on knowledge nothing not . Needs predvidene, intuition. On my observations still need to have "old roots" in gadatelnom egregore.
I have all request quickly and as-if so and should was happen. In 33 year survived clinical death, then year khatkha-yoga, then year Raja-yoga, and then. I have blood regardless horoscope types in connecting with Sun behaves similarly and Uranus in 10 House, and the Black Long in connecting with-03 03 boat dives, whom I still can be? :)

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Helen wrote:

Skyfall my observations still need to have "old roots" in gadatelnom egregore.

Helen, and can be whether this as something determine?
Here is me seems, that I before nothing such a not skillful, but me now, in this life this need to to study, understand. And me in general something this comes with hard, but life periodically me pushes to this path.

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IRA, determine must you itself. On senses here, on sensitive thus with those same now. Need to be open to peace and little tighter to its sentiments. Case resonates the film, seats any, people. But me, seems like a, that you connected with now accurately. So and see as you had Solitaire deal them out :rolleyes:

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