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Hello, all!
Perhaps, this theme someone seem beaten up or same I with similar Tendencies d look a near, but I all-???'ll ask. As be fondly? Indeed do, with its Jesus. Question. Been mulling, that allowed for themselves this lapse, and it turned out there is no. Read smart article (article pro psychology , written there many, will try reduce on opportunities):
To moreover, to to know anatomy its souls, enough watch on the, as you love. All narrow and the dark seats give its contribution in your sensations, Svitiaz their the relevant experiences, for example, jealousy. In conventional love can be find a series of signs of.
Here is the first a sign of human love all ordinary, good people are nekrofilami. They like insgesamt. That's necrophilia this love to the corpse is,. Virtually all normal people necrophiliacs. When you think, that love live human, you deeply're mistaken, on fact you love something insgesamt. And this corpse you manufacture themselves! Human head this mausoleum, where deposited carefully Infinity I30 the mummy beloved

Further goes bla-bla-bla pro the, that "corpse" the crux of the created by in your anybody image beloved, which is by no means fits real man. Not the original of the, but uneasy stalemate scheme.
Continue:
What, that is happening further, not behind nor in what framework. You start correct the original of the in accordance with painted by picture! You wrote the original of the so, to he became resemblance to image, which you carry in his anybody on your expectations.
This and there is the second a sign of love ordinary people: Simple love this rape, rape moreover, whom you love.
M6 right behind me evolves thought, that, if you want human remaking, then move you his not love, and indeed do, love under condition Felix Blumenfeld, but requires need further deliberation and because une're lying itself, and over favorite are trying besprestannye acts of violence.
Third a sign of conventional love: Simple love this business. Here, too, all understandable:
you something want from its beloved, something expect. For example, moreover, to this man was alongside you, to you could to see his. Or, to he liked you. Or (that even better), to he liked you in affordable for you form. Or, to put on so, as want you, studied under in such a something Institute, spoke you such something words, presented the, that you likes, adapted, to have him were other parents. And so until indefinitely. Demands can be a million or just pathetically one thing-the only this not matter. Importantly, that you something want want in exchange for its love
Still there called the two marker conventional love this loss of freedom and ejection forces (loss of energy), but I quote this already not d, think and so enough. Completes article the next thesis about how, what is same a different (apparently, the real) love: you love live rights. You love his thus, what he there is entirely, just.. Such a love this adoption. Adoption moreover, that there is. You slide without desires change something, and without desires have something in exchange. Without any sign hope obtain something in the answer. You experiencing happiness from, that there is the, whom you can love.
Am asking forgiveness for so is a long's accession, but here is now question, which me exactly and confounds. Imagine situation: He and she, mutual love, understanding of, respect, common interests word, all happy with, all scoff. Passes X number of time. They, suppose, already Dorns have been married (officially or grazhdanski not matter). And suddenly, to example, husband is beginning to to drink. Or gulyat. Or play on money, slivaya the entire family budget. And then still and wife pretty good at beating up, to example. In general, is happening what is happening. Under this stance husband (as human strictly 2372 and highly erudirovannogo) such is: I nothing correct in itself not d, I such, I themselves well Bacteria and and itself like me here is and Oh, make love me thus, what there is, if can. And the entire such (as it seemed) love wife suddenly overnight become conditional, so goes? Goes, either your love all-??? imputed, either Oh, make love and pick up even then, when you with their feet trumps? Only then your love - the real?
Either I something strongly not understand w453hjg

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Hmm. On-my all och simply - "not read before lunch Soviet newspapers." In sense - "smart" articles pro psychology :)
Little whether what the blonde this wrote, little whether what have this blonde a in anybody. Cannot be same recognized so around the to believe! :/

Article itself - kg / thermometre cxtrsder

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Ah except partner and themselves well would love and respect. ???? to be sure. Not before until about you will its feet to scrub. We same not denies with heap,, truth? Although under this all complain on high prices and low salaries. Nevertheless we and I are looking into opportunities to buy the qualitative products, so as well regarded and value themselves. The same with clothes and the like. And why with affairs there / family should be otherwise?

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chai wrote:

There same recognized so around the to believe!

And I and not believe recognized so. Simply och. Many psychologists (ah VERY!, Rainbow not let-to lie to) argue that the real love this such love. But here is for a few days I all encouraged come concluded that no unconditional love between persons there is no and be not can. And what call love this coincidence people. Ah something like the mechanism I this itself projected to the as some kind shesterenki. Have modern there is diverse set elaborate some further conjectures and vognutosti. And here is meet such people-shesterenki between themselves often and densely, but interaction incapable far not between myselfjust a. And when on will of Providence (or an, whom as more likes) meet two shesterenki, which have virtually perfectly coincide in the and shelves, they may teflon. He's, each for friend and are beginning the issues together and simultaneously. Under this rarely-rarely are outfitted with utterly ideal coincidentally. There is in any zatsepivsheysya paired seats, where tachy. But on outset such seats failure manages skip. And here is, in a result interaction have two modern arises sense of meet, and joy, and prevents other nice pieces in the consciousness of and in the body, which they referring love and, of course, peg and desire to maintain this state of until the end of days their. However, have all modern have one thing above this quality, from which nowhere not avoid. They are subject to Climate. Somewhere a can on the sly nusitrinti, and somewhere can suddenly sharply grow and if the second half of mechanism not tranquilizing or not wants be arranged under this change, then the entire this construction'll be blown to ah in general, chance. And each cog goes seek itself the other an opportune option.
So that there here on Earth between people no unconditional love and no a real there. Not are at this people I think, she there is, but not here, and 4 through and to unconditional love capable only,

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Yolka wrote:

Rainbow not let-to lie to

Not dam :) Indeed, is considered, that human need to to accept thus what he there is. Know, The tree, you such a subject touches. Many its as something closing its bypass or expressed obtekaemo type "we its happiness we build themselves" or still as something. On fact love worries all without exceptions, no one pleasantly not knows that this such, although all dreaming about it and every says, that there is no universal definitions love, nourished German, ????? it its. Its cynical opinion I below here (on truth not make any attempts).

Yolka wrote:

But here is for a few days I all encouraged come concluded that no unconditional love between persons there is no and be not can

Me seems, that the only manifestation of precisely unconditional love is otnesheniya between mother and child. And such a an absolute regularity love man then searching for entire life.
As nor regrettably recognize, but I agree with trees. There is no love on light of. At least least have moreover, who in it not believes. And everyone, as known, on his faith given.

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Yolka wrote:

Either I something strongly not understand

You simply until not received such a experience. :)
Can specialist African deserts, never 1970s from loved seats, to believe that case snow or the ice - hard water?
Even, if him about this will reveal man, whose view he was accustomed trust?
Hardly :)
, until himself not going to this very the ice or snow.
So and with this experience "love."
Some time ago, me, too, was it is unclear this description of "unconditional love", exactly, until I not received correlative experience.
Now can sign up under these words from articles:

you love live rights. You love his thus, what he there is entirely, just.. Such a love this adoption. Adoption moreover, that there is. You slide without desires change something, and without desires have something in exchange. Without any sign hope obtain something in the answer. You experiencing happiness from, that there is the, whom you can love.

Modicum blood rty
Yes :), and I quite not an angel)

Na-a-ah, I not have been arguing you to unconvince. Simply on this moment time you in this to believe extremely it is difficult.
Ah and not rape the themselves. :)

Flax, utterly with you agree - our love to children, yes and to parents applies precisely to "unconditional" :)

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For a time ago, me, too, was it is unclear this description of "unconditional love", exactly, until I not received correlative experience.

All Hi! Olja, and can be clarify couple of moments? This for you opened such experience or relative to you with hand another person? And how long on time remains this sense of?

Forumchane, theme this complex, ambiguous. It is difficult say, find whether we truth and at all perhaps whether its find in such topic. In my opinion, person shoulds zeitgeist for such a. All we know, that picture world ????? its grains, caused by past experience rights and his values. When man ready for changes, then something new (in this case ability to to be sure love and / or to accept love) integrates in his picture world. And if the stars not attitudes he picked up as need to, then not integrates. So:
1. Around the its time
2. On faith everyone given will

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And this is so. Information to last:

". Yours behavior to stay opredeit s reputation and, can be, yours welfare. You will have to deal with people, which you know not. With the outset think, think about them all most bad, that only can be imagine: You not too strongly you get it wrong. Not judge about the people on own heart, which, I am confident, nobly and ", and overcompensate moreover still young; despise their the most urbane way; this a means insulate themselves from small prejudices and small passions, which will about yo--mm to cause trouble under entry your in light.

Whether is cold with all; familiarity is always hurts; especially same beware of to permit its in appeal with superiors, as would they nor were tour buses stop with you. They soon challenge us and are happy humiliate, when we less all this expect.

Not you better show some usluzhlivosti and obuzdyvay warm location, if it will you mastered: People this not understand and willingly accept for pandering, for always are happy judge other on itself.

Never pick up any favors. Favors, most often, - betrayal. Avoid patronage, because this enslaves and it is demeaning.

Never forget intent grievances, - whether nemnogoslovne or at all smolchi and never to sign an insult to on insult. "

Know whose this words? This from letters nephew Alexander Rabinovich have Pushkin.

PySy. Can we explain map? Consider that has sparked such glance on life?

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Olja, and can be clarify couple of moments? This for you opened such experience or relative to you with hand another person? And how long on time remains this sense of?

For me, of course. :)
If would I about this knew with words another person, then not was able would with such certainty to speak about this.
Were periods very muddles feelings - from series of "costly all, even shortcomings, which perfectly see." But keen sense of long not there is. It turns into sustainable and quite relaxed. Almost as to child.
Man roads thus, what he there is, and I Nothingish not want in it to change. I only want, to my presence in his life, made his life happier. All. :)

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Means yours time has come :) yre563

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Hmm. Then for starters should recognize that the division love on equals 1.0 and an absolute regularity, too, highly and highly conditional support)
Then. I flatly not believe that "such love" abolishes or fills in for a impotence relations.

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chai wrote:

I flatly not believe that "such love" abolishes or fills in for a impotence relations.

Agree. Incidentally, precisely in case unconditional love speech and goes about craftingrelations. In case "conditional" love that anywhere - manipulation, dependence, only not "vybudovani."

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have said: So yours time has come

:D this rather it is time understand that this such

chai wrote:

Hmm. Then for starters should recognize that the division love on equals 1.0 and an absolute regularity, too, highly and highly conditional support)

And as here not recall about difference between tend and Sun behaves similarly?
"Likes" - it always for something.
And like, typically, simply so.

chai wrote:

I flatly not believe that "such love" abolishes or fills in for a impotence relations.

And I not believe. :pardon:
Not abolishes and not fills in for
Here, simply, the building builds on qualitatively friend basic foundation
Ah, and the very it several different. In my opinion

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And I not believe. :pardon:
Not abolishes and not fills in for
Here, simply, the building builds on qualitatively friend basic foundation
Ah, and the very it several different. In my opinion

For me this difference as between strategy and tactic - one without the other falls :)
There is no sense build relations when there is no love. This as times the very a of course) A such love, that man not can to pour in acceptable for partner form, unlikely and unbelievable. At least for me this something very an abstract and little on that good (

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chai wrote:

A such love, that man not can to pour in acceptable for partner form, unlikely and unbelievable. At least for me this something very an abstract and little on that good (

Something I you poorly understand.
You like it or say, that an absolute regularity love impossible express in acceptable for partner form? Or I something not so realized?
Forms expression love in the form of manhandling me, until killings, belong as times to "conditional" kind of :pardon:
And about "little on that good" - this is questions to to the Lord God. ghjk
Why, for any goals he sending such feelings people? ;)

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something I you poorly understand.
You like it or say, that an absolute regularity love impossible express in acceptable for partner form?

There is no) of course, not only can be but and need :)
But in articles, administration calling for unconditional love, typically, nothing about this not states. Apparently, implies that else as-thread the very a official. Ironically, many (especially quite youthful people) believe.
And it rarely has hosts the very http://httpastrodomraduganarodru.3bb.ru/img/smilies/pardon.gif

And then, is thus meaningless this analyze. In my opinion.
Man likes as likes. As can and keeps managing) What bribery him to explain that "so" wrong, and correctly here is m kiddin.
Analysis are amenable to concrete cases, concrete relations, not some pristine abstract love there are some "ordinary" people ;)

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you simply until not received such a experience

Olja, I would wanted remind context, in which I movement this subject: Man has changedfor one reason or another. If climate-, then deal it comes and until violence over other. Can lead example changes not so radical. Husband an artist. Was vy mozhete vyuchit angliyskiy, and then this demand runs out aswell. Farewells on sofa and began themselves spare no I the misunderstood genius. Wife been mulling pokisnet and actually perceived by voters, will pass, simply such period A he liked. Put near returned to cognac and Lemonhead. And well themselves feels. And to change nothing not intends to. And wife ploughs on three work. Let us and further love to be sure?
I, Olia, you want ask: You say there you have such a experience, and here is will you find. There is I have such experience. But. With the ensuing transformation, recognize in man. So I you all-??? not realized until the end of: You will to beat, and you chase love? To be sure? Or parameter indigenous climate personality in your assertion not enters? T. E. Is obtained, love to be sure, but provided, that he always will remain thus, what there is now.

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I dont seems, that the only manifestation of precisely unconditional love is otnesheniya between mother and child.

On expense it maternal love, too, not would argue. Until children small, yes, perhaps. But happens (and not rarely) small children become addicted in large cattles. And such a picture I often watch in reality have their neighbors. Live near with me grandmother and grandfather years under 70 alternativeto both, and there is have them son years to 40, lives with them. Sipping is both impious, virtually nowhere not works and regularly calls the at night, then under morning, suits scandals with language; and battery. Home they his the and deal not broadcast. Fear. Militia cause. This that? Such parent love? Yes I am sure, that except feelings debt (son zhizh, far prime) nothing there there is no and be not can. They even on any caring and support from him, when already quite ailing will become, not rely on.

Here is you and the absence of experience

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chai wrote:

there is no) of course, not only can be but and need
But in articles, administration calling for unconditional love, typically, nothing about this not states. Apparently, implies that else as-thread the very a official. Ironically, many (especially quite youthful people) believe.
And it rarely has hosts the very.

I would even told, that it NEVER not hosts the very.
This simply young people so seems, that all hosts the very.
Call for unconditional love, at least, funny. Only faced with problems in relations, and trying to find reasons their failures, people become capable to adopt in its consciousness such concepts as such love.
Apparently the authors such articles why something solve not report in one article questions of building relations and love. Although one without the other, typically, not there are.

chai wrote:

And then, is thus meaningless this analyze. In my opinion.
Man likes as likes. As can and keeps managing) What bribery him to explain that "so" wrong, and correctly here is m kiddin.
Analysis are amenable to concrete cases, concrete relations, not some pristine abstract love there are some "ordinary" people

Analyze sense there is no, you rights.
Me seems, that the main thought, that try to communicate the authors such articles, consists in is, that what would love not was imputed or such, not worth try to to change human, build his in accordance with own expectations, break and build under themselves. This is a blind alley path.
Man is changing constantly, and will change exclusively on sole discretion. And here is show direction movement partner may well, and than less highlights this will be done, the more chance on success.

Yolka wrote:

I, Olja, you want ask: You say there you have such a experience, and here is will you find. There is I have such experience. But. With the ensuing transformation, recognize in man. So I you all-??? not realized until the end of: You will to beat, and you chase love? To be sure? Or parameter indigenous climate personality in your assertion not enters? T. E. Is obtained, love to be sure, but provided, that he always will remain thus, what there is now.

Christmas tree so many of emotions
Not fly, quite.
I understand your state of. :yes:
Let us consider another example, less acute, than partnership relations.
Have mothers to children love is implicit always. Mother likes child IN ANY, what would he nor was. And child is changing constantly, significantly faster, than adult. Love same under this nowhere not disappears. But in some, particularly complex cases she may look and hatred, simply deadly. Mother under this always wants child just the best happiness, and camping on P., but here is do so, to implement their intention, is obtained not always. Here emerges conflict feelings and ability to build relations. Lacks of elementary knowledge and skills of, technologies can be said. And most importantly respect and confidence.

Know, me mother the electronic strongly. But words. And word, as known, can and kill.
And me seemed at times, that I its hate. But exactly before moment, until she not engulfed in hospital. And here I with amazement discovered, that I its love. :)

And in index of global connectedness remedies you example pro those old-timers and their son.
Not it. ghjk
But mother IS his son, yes and father, too,. And Myeong-gil their likes, and can even about this not know. Simply form of their existence become thanks to, in primarily, mistakes parents here is in such a skotskuyu.
Hatred this very a strong sense of, and the reverse side love.

Christmas tree. On this moment time you have such a peace meets the. I am not expected its to change, canvass you in than something. And all the more debate. Sense not see.
Me why something seems, that you have serious problems in relations with close. Be can makes sense deal in specific situation, not bayts to talk about types of love?
Lena-Rainbow not will give to lie to - there is ordinary, pardon "technological" receptions the maintenance relations. :)

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Lena-Rainbow not will give to lie to - there is ordinary, pardon "technological" receptions the maintenance relations.

Only internal forgiveness and adoption situation. External technology not feasible.

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External technology not feasible.

?????? :O

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