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Especially astrologicheskogo advise 2

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Астролог wrote:

Rainbow, you that, against inform forums about such dangers?

This not informing the, Astrolog. I not against inform, but inform are built on facts. Here same speech goes about psychological coercion on people, among which can prove legkovnushaemye and people with heightened from anxiety. And impact on them can produce this debate? Let, here nothing personal there is no, I, too, as and you share idea, that the sympathetic magic there is. But deal this extremely dark, maloissledovannoe. Not better whether rely on common sense, on facts?

Астролог wrote:

but who same forces you to be frightened?

And that Nina.doc wrote, that shefelt alarmed? Defecate can man, which in limbo, for him such information can prove Zipingpu crocheted for breakdown, for any something devastating action. Wasn about this not need to remember, wanting to something say?

Астролог wrote:

I simply voiced its opinion on the issue Thani

I not know as you, Astrolog, and I for something, to to shoulder responsibility for their opinion and words. Words-this far not granny thing. D is happy, if our views prove close.

Lud_mila wrote:

Nu, not feel I, that this paper has sacral sense is enclosed sense!

Likewise! I have all horoscopes at all in program, in mouse.

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Lud_mila wrote:

Nu, not feel I, that this paper has sacral sense is enclosed sense!

I, too,.
, printing right now on least need. Either when C about this requests. Either if there is the need over than something think (but better without computer).

And still how many avea to hear pugalki on subject "Never no one not show me its horoscope." ????, Astrologers intimidate thus their same customers. "Only me and more no one" -- pardon, other astrologers, too, watch cannot be? And if suddenly wanted with whom from close to share --, too, there is no?
Summer client told, that with its translator at the astrologer refused communicate refused outright, after, as has become an unwitting in witnessing it moreover, that this magaziny gave listen cube its consultation (have this astrologini) rate close girlfriend who. "Increasingly, me more turn not you dare, I you warned, that never and no one show this nothing cannot be!" Frankly, I was highly surprised by (those more, that before the same the most astrologinya itself same sneered at those astrologers, who thus people scares). Ah, vague me such approach -- why? For what frighten something? And after still and deviating not simply work, communicate with man?

Last edited by Regyna (Jan 20 2009 18:48:24)

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Радуга wrote:

I, too, as and you share idea, that the sympathetic magic there is

And not only the sympathetic

Радуга wrote:

I not against inform, but inform are built on facts

If perishing rely precisely on facts, you, yes and all astrologers enjoy any facts not operirute.
The entire all your astrology - nedokazannoe umozrenie (though and-running)

Радуга wrote:

This is not informing the, Astrolog. I not against inform, but inform are built on facts. Here same speech goes about psychological coercion on people, among which can prove legkovnushaemye and people with heightened from anxiety. And impact on them can produce this debate? Let, here nothing personal there is no, I, too, as and you share idea, that the sympathetic magic there is. But deal this extremely dark, maloissledovannoe. Not better whether rely on common sense, on facts?

Ah yes, stance, household goods take easier. I'm so sorrah for bluntness

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Morozz wrote:

Wu me was case with one madam. She turned to astrologu, the kind its hit him up about Rittenhouse, and apparently, has built its map. And this L after entire night not Slept and next morning has decided to abandon consultation - something it became not on itself. Then this astrologer has become her to talk, that late nourished German, she already dreamt its map and (as argued this L) has become its intimidate those, that now it cannot be to abandon consultation, otherwise will poorly. After these words the kind L (to word say, so unnecessarily an impressionable) was a long time in of shock.

Partly the kind astrologer podnadavila on the lady. But in a whole, she rights, 24PM such nerazvyazannye, the advantage situation create unnecessary karmic ganglia between client and a consultant for

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Астролог wrote:

I'm so sorrah for bluntness

Excuse you., so as for me this meaning not has. I not think, that on this Forum you will find support, Astrolog. From all who spoken, with you no one not agreed.

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Debate acquired not a constructive character. But all same Orgeat, that I, as and Astrolog, feel horoscope. Sometimes he lives, insurance is. This only the feeling. But no one me not will persuade, that this there is no, because I so this perceive. If, who not feels, then please, this personal deal and mentality among Southern.

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Helen wrote:

The debate acquired not a constructive character.

Unfortunately, yes.

Helen wrote:

Sometimes he lives, insurance is

Flax, and after all with this no one not dispute. Speech commanded about friend, namely about the impact astrological work as such on life and fate client. I nowhere (nor in literature, nor among astrologers) nor never not listened mentioning, that after astrological work someone died precisely owing to that work.
And this quote of our an esteemed The astrologer

Астролог wrote:

Rainbow
Real examples there is no.

Helen wrote:

If, who not feels, then please, this personal deal and mentality among Southern.

Naturally. But I think and about those who little versed in astrology and reads this forum. Lena, you agree, that this reasonably?

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Excuse, I not realized. Of course, this perfect stupidity, that man dies from moreover that look on his horoscope. Death this not so simply. For this need to, to mission human ended and still heap curiously programs and ties. This not level of views on rights. How many would we nor enough, not watched, wasn that tooth let's ventilate in bodies, and all the more in particular.
Can, not on topic, but want say, that I now give a one-course on sights zodiac and evolutionary development rights. Academy open channels on sights and include planet respectively. So here is, particularly sensitive people talked me, that feel and are switching to action and life in next signs precisely in the time, when I restricting this a badge of on individual imagined herself as, camping on E. In advance.

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Helen wrote:

So here is, particularly sensitive people talked me, that feel and are switching to action and life in next signs precisely in the time, when I restricting this a badge of on individual imagined herself as, camping on E. In advance.

Helen, this was and have us on group "Taro through movement." People obtain classes some, but then have them including events on arkhetipu Taro, which proceeded group. This effect group-think flow of.

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Can be poshutit? :blush: A let us right, we'll move killers on their market services? Indeed, why money spend? Will arrange the astrologicheskuyu a threesome (not think ill-, simply group ``debriefing horoscope) and use, C crushed own astral battlefields :insane:

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Helen wrote:

But all same Orgeat, that I, as and Astrolog, feel horoscope.

Agree. Precisely this and is happening under work astrologer with card. But himself a paper option horoscope hardly can influence client without participation astrologer.

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Радуга wrote:

C crushed own astral battlefields

Not own, and our, panel battlefields :D

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Радуга wrote:

A that Liuda wrote, that she felt alarmed? Defecate can man, which in limbo

And his, human this, to be frightened no one forces
To be frightened or not - strictly personal the right choice ;)

Радуга wrote:

I not think, that on this Forum you will find support

I its here not't seek, and grant my full its opinion

Радуга wrote:

can prove legkovnushaemye and people with heightened from anxiety. And impact on them can produce this debate?

Here is how times'm gullible and more persuadable of our need to in primarily know about ??? the negative, for they receptive, easily can obtain negative

Радуга wrote:

Here same speech goes about psychological coercion on people

Ah, this you're exaggerating, pressure I not had provided the

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Of books M. Yale "Earth and the sky: When the bottom not so, as at the top. Creative all your astrology in practice advise "

Konsultirovat people - means more, than simply interpret horoscopes.And all same: Abused are the foundation activities consultant. Those less Limits horoscope - this always interpretation, which are contingent and priukrasheny own opinion consultant and his understanding life.

For example, subject Venus - Saturn can be interpret so: “In relations you constantly chase receive experience disappointments and of separation, feel unloved and pariah ”, or same:“ your partner will constantly extreme your rights and even apply repressive measures ” - and suppose, that both options Abused staunchest, but what from them the benefits client?

These remarks can be replace questions “Perhaps, in relations you constantly will experience disappointments, feel themselves unloved, sometimes even patients feel own personal damage? ”,“ How you think, with than this may be stems? Were whether you have relations, which have evolved otherwise? That in them was differently? On what patterns, with your perspective, should pay attention in the future, to avoid a similar experience disappointments? ”

In both cases interpretation of roughly similar. But form of issues opens for client quite other prospects - broader, than in the first case, where niei?u labels and sentences.

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A handsome example :) Liuda, thank you (incidentally, me these notebook, finally, came, tomorrow do to occupy).

Lud_mila wrote:

But form of issues opens for client quite other prospects - broader, than in the first case, where niei?u labels and sentences.

Word heals a, word combat.

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Я тоже купила эту книгу:М.Йеле "Земля и небо: когда внизу не так, как наверху. Креативная астрология в практике консультирования". Скажем так, мне она не "пошла"... Есть некоторые интересные моменты, но в целом на мой взгляд слишком много психологических терминов и "воды", но это, конечно, только на мой взгляд.. :rain:

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Here in an online journal interesting conversation is underway :writing: I tried to dissuaded from bloggerstva Olga drugs sell their body and vyrulila on utterly unexpected for themselves things. Lest here not bore readers, dam exile on its FaceBook, whom it will be interesting, read full version of debate:

http://moly-min-may.livejournal.com/173 … 47#t188847

And here I let me give you 2 their office:

"Tanya, here is see (I can rough izyasnyus, but as tickles). Not secret, that prestige astrology have us as something initially was undercut. Because selected RELEX on mass of, created pop option astrology. You now ask, who not knows that such Jupiter or point MC? There is heap literature, there is astroprogrammy with prepared interpretations, sit down and vayay itself gorosokpy until're blue in the face. However under this why something high art astrology in hands something not particularly comes. Why something. Why something need not 5 and not 10 years, and why something possessing already capacities for experience astrokonsultirovaniya, astrology spend money, buy books with basic knowledge and are returning again and again to the elements be, Crosses and camping on D. Why? - arises question. But because astrology this not pop and not Slap ". All your astrology this often not simply obtaining answer on question. Astrology this when you pushing yourself too hard, with amazement don that little that know about itself, that here is this something you quite not suits and you're changing in itself this on pozitiv. This is called growth. Growth forget branding and spiritual. Attention question: How many man from 100 are prepared to this? Javadxan, many - someone will tell. Agree, now as never acquired popularity all sorts of training identity growth and tuh HaVaYaH and tuh be an RSM. However deal after all not in is, to listen a lecture and fulfill a series of exercise. Deal in systematic work. Because only affecting entire system in a whole (values, convictions, mission and camping on D.) you can indeed change. I.e. NOT can about how, that changes occurred, and when you unmistakably one takes the right things pick up the the right decisions. This when yours unconsciousness the very, automatically markets maximally the right programs and this confirms the reverse of communication from life in the form of get you things, people and events. (Continuation of should) "

"DAC here is, continue conversation) I why gets blown up when heard, that Olga in bloggers goes? It depend on masses assumes in this case being shallow (not snobbery this) If you who not agree with this formulation ask fixing astrologers at different resuraskh and social networks type Reunion! Ask their what "as" in the form of paid consultation. The answer may unpleasantly surprise anyone. And why? - ask you. And because, - answer I, - that to most all your astrology need a not for change, and simply because, that have people the bad a trial,. And simply put, people themselves themselves poorly know. Plus in our’dominant mindset orientation on external lokus control, i.e. man searching for reasons events his life where anywhere: In stecheniyakh circumstances, in other humans, only not in itself. So most often approach the next: Tell me what I.
Nevertheless there is and other people. Those, whom all your astrology indeed need a, who ready to identify the themselves, who prepared to stand up on a path changes. Here is these people and need to find. And more accurately, to they themselves took to you. And for this that need? Yes in general well known things: High professionalism + education into work. This expensive, anyone, this-all your forces, time and personal life. But here question is worth so: Or you pros or not. If yes, then you not will frighten such things. And people themselves to you will come. You regulation vy mozhete vyuchit angliyskiy and without clients not stay, will you.
Tanja, I responded to your question? Errori, that for it is rather lengthy. But wrong as we used to, honest word. "

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Forth (I publish only their long answers).
Question: "So here is, that need to do specialist, to about his professionalism learned not only, the nearby, but and long drives, to to him came adequate and interested people? Let this and lasting process, but specifically, on counts? "

The answer:

For all not I’d say, I’d say for himself. Be patient, open, sane to, socially yeast, successful, ready to contacts. Be a. Once on Astrodome we discussed subject spirituality: Karelianand I with foam have cavity argued, that demonstrated itself the notion of umozritelnoe and wobbly. Demonstrated there is the crux of the manifestations of feedback from life, this magic interaction you and life. In general refold throughout the not d, whom interestingly, read. This roughly so: If you write books, you publish, if you a draw, you buy, if you write songs, you sing, if you practicing, to you go. But! You can tell: Now for money can be all buy: And the publication and camping on D., and perishing songs what sing, then niei?u mediocrity. Here a slight addition: Under this from common ground with you people change, bar mitzvah. If this there is, you By. If there is no - there is no.

That still. The information openness. Nor to whom specifically not recalling, want say: All talk pros from involution (type "I'm using ancient, secret technology, available only called\ the king\ elected and with our help you can change karma" net bullshit. This a direct trnaslirovanie to egos, to pride rights.: Pay the me, become, too, elected, and this a redneck let continues to vegetating. Now situation a unique the situation, when esoteric model in a whole densely were able in social fabric life society (before was several otherwise, but I now not want otpochkovyvatsya in side medieval doctors-astrologers, this was otherwise will repeat, were other nuances). Pitfalls of our time, educated, by enlightened people: Esoteric knowledge should and can be well adapted for understanding of and calculated decision-rights. Not need to to speak "In the Virgin Venus in crippling", this may scare rights. Need to say: "Your feelings depend on estimates human, to love you stand too with perspective rassudochnosti and soundness, spike in feelings for you rare, and here is reliability partner and ritualnost relations (on time provide gift, for example) play greater role." And man will understand, he same not fool! Is understood and takes into the, that der.

On. Keep their borders (this I you as bottom-up Taurus say. Not fear their assert, not go on about have konyuktury, on time prevent attempts penetration in its space. Why? Because all you still like never regulation. This need to accept as ????. Not "your" man? Politely and culturally put salt with him. Not wants politely and culturally? Put salt it's not polite and uncivilized, but not reinforcing time. Raspoznavay "his" client on point willingness to changes. Not "your" out entire blood and would launch in a psycho. Game and not moral and material meet not will. Was I have case one. Turned on subject changes an. Ah here is such a request. Karma change please. Only for free, money there is no, disabled person. I told: "Well. I will with you work for free. But. You represent itself, that means change karma? This means to go through its pain, trauma, horror, anger, defeat, weakness and watch in eyes to his to a demon. You to this are prepared? "" There is no ", - responded me, -" and cannot be as something differently? "" There is no ", - told I, -" this not me. " They are gone. Not helped even price. This, incidentally,, too, test on their and of strangers. And times perishing me experienced, carry pro karma. Perishing very now speculate on this subject. Karma this the crux of the your sub-conscious reaction on any things. One person lives in unfavorable conditions and nothing, well itself grows up in integral one and integrated personality. The other in these same conditions are getting away mad (again same example: The familiar one rolled off mad from mothers and grandmothers, "No Shooting" in a psych ward. Family, incidentally, well good, in sense nor grandmother, nor mother not drinking-were not supposed to smoke, waged well then take image life). So here is, to to reconstruct benchmark programs, requires OT 2-'s years psychotherapeutic work. And I want say, that Jesus Christ was happy man. Because he has survived of Gethsemane garden one times. Change karma this have courage descending in its personal hell. And not one times. This contact with trauma of again, again and again. And knowing that you awaits, you not like it or this and speak: Let me all incarcerated Cup this would mean. But another course there is no, here is in than deal. And possessing sense of respect to itself, sense of own dignity, craving one seems desire to BE, not masturbate with the help diverse psychological protections, you southern there and one takes the, that need. Again, again and again. Until your reality not is changing and you don, that this and there is miracle and conversion, and magic life, and greatness rights and forces his spirit. And now I repeat its question: How many man from 100 wants, truly wants change?

Ah here is, roughly so. Have been wittering on I with you, girls) and work higher rooftop.

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- 7. Lena, thank you you for sustain creativity work, from souls,
And for soul hooked, captured brains and again and snova ask itself all those same questions.
With respect, longitudinally mounted power

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Tania T wrote:

Lenochka, thank you you for sustain creativity work, from souls, and for soul hooked, captured brains and again and snova ask itself all those same questions.

:surprise: thank you! Luck!

Continuation of themes.
Question:

"Lena! Force behind you the ideological) That "wooden" example, find a distraction)):
There is any Triora as well-krasnoderevschik, and he can to do cool carved a grabber, and have him on kitchen such are worth.
To him go in Visitors neighbors and say "Oh, - say, - what cool! With steeply, with steeply! Master! "And go (ah not need them a grabber, have them high-tech on kitchen). Triora as well so and remains with their stool choir now and mouse in refrigerator.
Come other neighbors and say "Oh, - say, - what cool! And molitvakh us, too, such same, we you settle up! "He taking some swings, made, all happy with. Triora as well, too, - couple of days. Because in refrigerator again a mouse, and money more there is no, and neighbors more there is no.
And what him further to do? He not case of, not a bruised involution (, he is him, he Hypnotizes to the pupils affair, he makes his qualitatively, he Romulo, open, 're sane,, socially adapted and ready for contacts. But that him take, to his a grabber saw someone still, except neighbors and those people (units), which they led to it? And not simply saw, and diary buy? And to this process was with continuous? "

The answer: "- Ta-the-the kind) At the vastness of Internet, namely in FaceBook, there is blog one very interesting things rights. He - some culinarian, his name is Maxim Syrnikov and he Hypnotizes Russian cookery. Not know perishing profession his this or hobby, but kommentitsya have him heap people. And he himself primary preparing, urgent when interesting prescriptions for with photo and the entire are immersed in history Russian cuisine. So here is, personally smiled in his the comments section have said proposal from editor first publish book his recipes. I.e. to him. Came. And have proposed. Money. Themselves. Don? This positive example as can be be successful, remaining themselves a. That concerns became concerned purchases your services, then. Ah perhaps as something wriggle need to, not sit low on its a time. As precisely I you not I’d say, because I not supposed to know everything. And if would knew, then sell would this recipe for very big money :playful: If says about your example who observes this, then manual work always was prized highly and usually promotion Masters in (astrologer or who observes this) the most reliable goes on channel sarafannogo radio.
Tanya, I not know ready recipes. But know accurately, that if "long tormented, anything tickles." Usually people fall under influence magichnoy personality, and magician man become then when allows become themselves a. "

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